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Logistics and haulage

Rate requests: what happens before anyone decides a price

Pricing a load takes a haulier a few seconds once they know what they are pricing. Everything before that point is gathering facts the enquiry did not include and running checks whose answers are published, which is why a quote that takes two minutes of thought can take half a day to send.

Last checked 20 September 2026

A rate enquiry is an incomplete consignment note #

The facts needed to price a movement are almost exactly the facts the paperwork will later demand.

Article 6(1) of the CMR Convention, in the schedule to the Carriage of Goods by Road Act 1965, requires a consignment note to state the place and date of taking over the goods and the place designated for delivery, a description of the goods and the method of packing, the number of packages and their marks, the gross weight or quantity otherwise expressed, and the charges relating to the carriage.

Strip out the charge, which is the thing being asked for, and that is a rate request. Which tells you something useful about the shape of the work: the office is not gathering information for the quote, it is gathering information for the job, early, from somebody who has not yet committed to giving them the job. We set out the full set and where it reappears on booking in loads.

What is actually missing from most enquiries #

Enquiries arrive short, and they are short in predictable ways. The recurring gaps:

  • Weight or dimensions
  • A delivery window rather than a delivery date
  • Whether the delivery point has a loading bay or needs a tail lift
  • Whether anything in the load is hazardous
  • Who is paying

Each gap costs a reply and a wait.

That waiting is where most of the elapsed time in a quote goes, and elapsed time is what the customer actually experiences. The same dynamic is described from a different trade on chasing a quote: the work is quick, the round trips are not, and the enquiry that gets answered first often wins regardless of price.

The checks with published answers #

Two questions get asked on almost every enquiry and neither is a matter of opinion.

Does it fit? GOV.UK publishes maximum weights for articulated vehicles by axle count, reaching 44,000kg at six axles, and states that a vehicle is overloaded if it exceeds the weight limits displayed on either the manufacturers' or ministry plates, whether on an axle, gross or train weight. Comparing a declared weight against a plated limit is a comparison.

Is it a day's work? Under the assimilated drivers' hours rules a driver may drive 9 hours a day, extendable to 10 hours twice a week, with 56 hours in a week, and must take breaks totalling at least 45 minutes after no more than 4 hours 30 minutes driving.

Whether a lane can be run out and back in a shift is therefore bounded by fixed numbers. The planner decides what to do about the answer. The answer itself is arithmetic, and the records that evidence it are covered on drivers' hours record keeping.

The constraint most enquiries ignore #

A customer asking whether you can run four more vehicles from January is asking a licensing question dressed as a commercial one. GOV.UK sets out the financial evidence required for an operator licence:

LicenceFirst vehicleEach additional vehicle
Restricted, heavy goods3,100 pounds1,700 pounds
Standard national or international, heavy goods8,000 pounds4,500 pounds
Standard international, light goods1,600 pounds800 pounds

Evidence can be bank or building society statements covering the last 28 days, among other options.

Which parts of a rate request run on rules #

Runs on rules

  • Reading an enquiry and extracting the lane, dates, weight and equipment, where the fields are known
  • Spotting that an enquiry is missing something you always need, which is a completeness check
  • Checking a declared weight against plated limits, which is published arithmetic
  • Checking whether the run fits inside a driving shift, where the rules produce the answer
  • Knowing which quotes have had no reply for a week, which is date arithmetic on a list
  • Turning a decided price into a sent quotation, which is document production

Needs a haulier

  • Deciding what the lane is worth this week, which is the reason the business exists
  • Deciding whether to take a loss leader for a backload, which is a network decision
  • Deciding whether this customer is worth the trouble, which is nobody else's call

The quote turnaround calculator shows what the elapsed time between enquiry and reply is doing to your win rate, and the cost of admin time calculator puts hours against the gathering. What happens after the load runs, when the quoted rate has to become money, is on invoicing against PODs.

Questions people ask

What does a rate request have to tell you before it can be priced?
Collection and delivery points, dates and any windows, the weight and the dimensions or pallet count, the nature of the goods including anything hazardous, and the equipment needed. That is close to the list the CMR Convention requires on a consignment note, which is not a coincidence: the enquiry is the first draft of the contract document.
Which feasibility checks are arithmetic rather than judgement?
Whether the load is within plated weight limits, and whether the run fits a driving shift. GOV.UK publishes maximum weights for articulated vehicles by axle count, reaching 44,000kg on six axles, and the assimilated drivers hours rules cap daily driving at 9 hours, extendable to 10 hours twice a week, with 45 minutes of breaks after no more than 4 hours 30 minutes driving.
Why does an operator licence limit what you can quote for?
Because the number of vehicles on the licence is backed by money you must be able to demonstrate. GOV.UK sets financial evidence at 8,000 pounds for the first heavy goods vehicle and 4,500 pounds for each additional vehicle on a standard licence, and 3,100 pounds and 1,700 pounds on a restricted licence. Taking on more vehicles is a licensing question before it is a commercial one.
Is quoting itself automatable?
The gathering and the checking are mechanical. The price is not. Deciding what a lane is worth to you this week, given the vehicles you have, the backload you expect and the customer you are dealing with, is commercial judgement, and a page like this will not pretend otherwise.

Where these numbers come from

  1. GOV.UK, HGV maximum weights , read 20 September 2026 . Maximum weights for articulated vehicles by axle count, up to 44,000kg on 6 axles, and the statement that a vehicle is overloaded if it exceeds the weight limits displayed on either the manufacturers or ministry plates, on an axle, gross or train weight
  2. GOV.UK, Drivers hours: assimilated rules , read 20 September 2026 . 9 hours daily driving extendable to 10 hours twice a week, 56 hours in a week, and breaks totalling 45 minutes after no more than 4 hours 30 minutes driving
  3. GOV.UK, Apply for a vehicle operator licence: financial evidence , read 20 September 2026 . Standard licence, heavy goods: 8,000 pounds for the first vehicle and 4,500 pounds for each additional vehicle. Restricted licence: 3,100 pounds and 1,700 pounds. Light goods on a standard international licence: 1,600 pounds and 800 pounds. Evidence includes bank statements covering the last 28 days
  4. Carriage of Goods by Road Act 1965, schedule, the CMR Convention , read 20 September 2026 . Article 6(1) lists the particulars a consignment note shall contain, including the places and dates of taking over and delivery, the description and packing of the goods, the number of packages, the gross weight and the charges relating to the carriage

Last checked 20 September 2026.

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